2 Dacshunds in Florida available to good home. PLEASE HELP!

[JarrettEmily]

I'm embarassed and scared right now, I need your help and support.  I'm sorry this is long, but my heart is in pieces and I don't know what to do!

Anyway, Jarrett and I have been together for almost a year.  He has decided to re-home Koby and Tiff, the dachshunds.  You all might remember us posting a bit over the sumer when the board was in it's OLD format.  Anyway, Jarrett feels like a fool and a bad person for ‘ruining’ his dogs to the point of where they are now.  He totally understands how this is all HIS fault.  It used to be that he was worried about placing the dogs and him getting screwed and dogless if we broke up. 

But, more recently he has seen that this issue has NOTHING to do with me.  Of course I can’t stand to live that way (and blah blah you know the story), but REGUARDLESS of whether I’m in the picture or not;  he needs to make a personal choice whether he is truly happy living in a house of filth.  Keeping Koby and Tiff should and now does NOT have anything to do with our relationship.  WHEW!

I explained to him that I can not be with a man who sees nothing wrong with living the lifestyle that he has for almost 6 years.  I don’t want to change him, but I want him to understand that his living conditions are disgusting and unacceptable even to the most normal person.  I think it’s sad and bad and wrong that he’s turned his dogs into monsters and now they are worthless as we know it to be a ‘pet’, but people are sometimes bad and ignorant, and we all make mistakes!  I told him that it is my decisions to NOT allow my life to go in the path with the type of man he was showing himself to be!  I know he's not white trash, but the condition of his house is the type where really poor, nasty, and trashy people live.  I take pride in my life and my belongings, and I told him if he doesn't then he's the wrong man for me!

So, not only does his life suffer because he has two untrained WILD ANIMALS in his house (literally like adopting an indoor raccoon for a pet!).  But, ever since the crate has been implemented they spend 22 of their 24 hours a day in the cage together.  This is also NOT FAIR to them.  No one is winning in this situation.

Jarrett and I REALLY do want to be together, and I’m glad that he is TOTALLY seeing that I’m not asking him to choose his dogs or me.  But, I am asking him to be upfront with the type of person and lifestyle that he wants to live.  I value all of my hard work and money that went into my education, that has worked towards a nice salary to buy nice things, not just for it to be urinated and defecated on.  Not how I can live!

Most sadly, and as an animal lover and an animal scientist, I have learned that animals are ANIMALS.  No animal is worth what has been done in this situation.  No animal should ever become such a pushover as what happened in this situation.  We are human beings, and we are the dominate race and it should be our responsibility to MANAGE our pets.. not invite ANIMALS into our homes.  It is sad when we has humans fail to make ANIMALS into pets, but like I said people make terrible mistakes.

Luckily Jarrett can feel some pride in that he knows SO MUCH MORE about how to be a good dog owner and that love is also saying NO and setting limits.  He knows that there are ‘good’ dog foods and they don’t come from the grocery store.  He understands that crate training is really best for the animal.  He knows you can’t take the lazy way out and buy a doggie door and ‘hope’ that they go outside.  He also knows how to dremel the nails (not that he ever did, I always did..lol). 

Jarrett has learned and I am proud of him for that.  I am so sorry that it was at the expense of two innocent creatures, but Jarrett has learned.

Sorry to ramble on, but I just don’t feel like the average dog owner that is wanting to give up easily and dump off their problems.  I hope you see that we have tried everything to a very extreme limit.  It has nearly ruined our relationship, and the foundation for the relationship that I am still forming with his mother.  Yes, his mother is MORE of a pushover than Jarrett!

Jarrett and I have decided to relocate outside of Tallahassee once I get my internship started and wrapped up, as I will be the one with the degree and securing my job takes precedence.  Selling his house is still a ways off (but less than a year), but just over the weekend we ripped up the carpet in the living room and replaced it with Pergo.  We are trying to do little by little to get the house in a decent condition.  I am including pics of the house for you to see.  It is so unsanitary that if Jarrett and I were to have a child, the state would take the baby away because of filthy unsafe conditions.

As we were ripping up the carpet and the baseboards, Jarrett’s familiar phrase of “They haven’t had an accident in over 6 months” was quickly shot down.  In the insides of the baseboards, it was still soaked with urine and still wet from who knows when the last “accident” was.  There were bald spots in the carpet where repeated urination has burned holes in it. 

I feel so bad because the dogs are NEVER allowed out of their kennel for more than an hour or so a day, and he is SO GOOD now about taking them out and has had so much repetition and praise with them.  The concept is just not sticking and we can’t afford them to ruin new flooring.  It’s not even flooring that we get to enjoy, we’re laying it so that someone would be more eager to buy this house. 

Obviously, the dogs HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS and it was VERY RECENTLY (of which I ALREADY knew b/c stains are stains but new pee pee is a stain with a smell and stickiness).  They are already a breed that is difficult to potty train (BUT Jarrett never did his research and read that 6 years ago, as that's all I read when I spent just 5 minutes looking them up myself).  And now as nearly senior aged dogs, this concept is not something we cannot teach them or try to teach them anymore. And I feel my training is better than the average joes!

Jarrett TRUELY thought that they were pee and accident free and that I just hated the dogs for what they USED TO DO!  He really thought they were reformed little angels (because of our hard workd), but the proof was in the pudding (when we removed the carpet) and my words were really put to life then.  It's baffling how dogs that are contantly in the cage manage to soak up baseboards and burn holes in the carpet in the 1-2 hours that they are allowed out in TOTAL SUPERVISION.  So after really having faith in those dogs, giving them all the benefit of the doubt and nearly a YEAR of contant hard core traing.. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.. he saw that with a very loudand clear blow over the weekend.



I have emailed a zillion dachshund rescue places.  There all full, I wonder why! 

Jarrett has set a goal of re-homing them soon (thank GOD!), but I just don’t know what to do really.  In my mind, the dachshunds really are not fit for being ‘pets’ anymore.  They should be settling down on senior dog food as their chins start to lighten with graying hair, not being thrown thru doggie obedience camp like they have for the last year.  I think it’d be great if they were never in someone’s house, so if a new owner had a lot of land it would be nice.  But, let’s face it these dogs are not outside dogs either.  They think they are perfectly normal pets and still want to be up on the bed and couch (but pee on it too!).

I will try to contact more rescue groups and I know there's a no kill shelter in Jacksonville, 2 hours away.  If I have to I will take them there.  I just don't want to take them to our local shelter because they are WAYYYYY to much to handle for some 'single' mom that wants to get her little daughter some cute dogs.  I would fear for the life the dachshunds would get then:  bounced from home to home and possibly abused and beaten!

Jarrett is such a pushover with EVERYTHING, dogs, his family.. ALL OF IT!  It's no wonder he's 31 and single.. I know he's my bf and that's bad to say, and I love him, but it's true.  This is not acceptable, to even a 'trashy' person.  That is why I really struck a cord with him when I said I could care less whether I'm his girlfriend or not, but I seriously question his character to have allowed this to happen! 

I know Koby and Tiff are only 2 dogs, but this situation is like animal hoarding b/c animal hoarders think they are doing what's best for the dog by saving it, but this is NOT WHAT IS BEST!  CLEARLY!


I don’t want to just drop them off at the humane society here b/c I don’t want Mr. & Mrs. Smith to buy them and dump ‘em in a week.  As much as I hate these dogs for what Jarrett has done to them, I do care about them.  They are still God's creatures!  These dogs have serious issues that I think a professional trainer would have strong reserves about reforming as well! 

Also, it has been brought to my attention that no kill shelters offer more than a cage for them for the rest of their life.  We all know there is more to life than living, and being stuffed in a cage like a bird rippiing out it's feathers in utter boredom is SELFISH thinking.  So, I even think a no kill shelter is not the answer.

Jarrett has agreed that I should be the one to take them wherever it is we decide to take them, as it would be too hard on him to see them go.  Also, I’m not working and he is, so if I need to drive like 7 hours I could.  Problem is, I just don’t know who to contact or what would be the best home for them?  Honestly, should they be put to sleep?  I wouldn’t want to lie to Jarrett, but for his protection if putting them to sleep was the best option.. instead of them being thrown from house to house and possibly getting abused by someone’s frustrations, I would be willing to look into doing that as well.

The more I think, the more I feel like euthanasia is the ONLY way.  Any other way would be SELFISH on Jarrett's part for the dachshunds.  They are no longer pets, there were victems of a benign neglect, and they have to pay the ultimate consuquence for his "love" and lack of limits for them.

Please please help me.  Koby and Tiff have not led an abused day in their life.  Until within the last year, they’ve never been told 'no', and they have been the constant center of attention.  Jarrett understands completely that he has ruined and destroyed these innocent dogs into monsters, and he is so depressed and upset about the whole thing that this is now my responsibility and my way to help him.

I want to mention that Jarrett owns a professional carpet steam cleaner.  So, what you see is not really 6 years of urine in the pictures, this is actually the most ‘recent’ damage! It's no wonder that Murphy never just peed on the floor.  After knowing what I know and having actual proof when the carpet was pealed back, I am just amazed that Murphy knew better!  Poor Murphy has suffered so much thru all of this too.. confusion with the carpet is just a beginning!  The attacks from his dogs for NO REASON.. I mean, I’m sure you know the story already! By the way Murphy is my dog.

I do want to do something soon, because it’s just killing him and breaking his heart just within this last day of him making the decision, looking at his dogs and knowing that he has done the worse thing ever to them:  he’s let them down and they will have an unknown future because of it.



Thanks,
Emily

[April]

I will try to give you an answer and I certainly don't want to sound mean, but I really don't think you are as goodwilled towards these dogs as you'd like to think.  That's not to say they wouldn't be better in another home, but I seriously doubt they are beyond help and should be put to sleep because they aren't housebroken.  That makes me wonder. 
There are several rescue organizations and some of them are national ones rather than state/regional.  They may be a better option for you.  Have you looked into coast to coast dachsie rescue or DRNA?  They are larger and might have more foster homes available for the pair.  I would take them if I could and I have a 14 month old daughter, but unfortunately I don't have the finances at the moment.  I really hope you are able to get them somewhere away from you since they are causing stress, but I also hope you realize they aren't bad dogs and Jarrett isn't a bad person simply because he didn't train them to your standards. 

[Barb]

Please do not consider putting them to sleep to be the best option - there are places that will take them.  What organizations have you contacted?  Where in Florida are you located?   

These kids deserve a chance - if your last resort is to take them to a no kill shelter -please do that.  I was lucky and found my Rudy at our local no kill shelter - and it was the best day of my life.

[Kathy]

Yes, I agree that they need to find a new home.  How can they live in a situation where someone really dosen't like them.  If I remember right in a post that you replied to last summer, you scolded a person for wanting to get rid of there cat because it had problems with the other animals.  Now you have convinced your boyfriend to get rid of his best friends that he has had for the last 6 years.  Yes, he should of worked on the potty training more.  Can an older dog be potty trained?  Yes, I Just rescued an eight year old doxies two months ago.  When she arrived at the house she had potty training issues but now she does't.  Sorry to be so blunt but how did these dogs have a chance when you didn't like them in the first place.  Please don't put them down, find a rescue.

[Nikki]

Ok, if you are looking for validiation for your decisions about your boyfriend and his dogs, I don't think you will find it here.  I read your post twice and just want to make a couple of observations.  You say you don't want to change your boyfriend, yet you do not approve of his life style and cannot live like he lives, so in essence, you want him to not live then way he has been so what you want is him to change.  You say that getting rid of the dogs is his decision, but you say he has lived like this for 6 years and until you came into the picture, he was content to live this way with his dogs, so it sounds like this is really your decision forced upon him.  In one sentence you say this is breaking your heart because you care about the dogs, and then in another sentence you say you hate them.  You say that his decision has NOTHING to do with you, but he would not be making this decision if it was not for you.  You say that Jarrett understands now that he ruined his dogs and this is now all his decision, but that decision has been influenced by you.   What I am trying to say here is that you want what you want and you want the dogs gone for what ever reasons.  I am not saying that Jarrett or the dogs don't have issues, but is sounds like you are trying to shift the focus from the fact that for many reasons (the lack of house breaking, the attacks upon your dog) you hate these two dogs and want them gone from your life.  That is what it boils down to, you want Jarrett in your life, but you don't want his dogs in your life.  I remember your posts on the other board from the summer.  Same song, second verse.  Please find another home for them if you plan on staying with Jarrett.  Living in a kennel 22 hours a day is no life.  There are pleny of options other than putting them down.  If you have them put down, Jarrett may have resentment toward you for a long time.  Look for other options, please.

[Adela]

There are many rescue sites available. Please  :pray:look into them. Putting them down is not your final option. Remember...they can always become someone's for life pet and can be retrained.
Adela

[TerriL]

I have been coming to this board for sometime now and never have I ever read such a load of crap in my life.  I refuse to beat around the bush on my feelings here and if that gets me in hot water, so be it.

Neither you nor your boyfriend should have those poor little GORGEOUS dogs.  Your relationship is your own.  What you do in your life is certainly up to you and the way in which you choose to live is up to you as well.  Those dogs are an entirely different story.  They did NOT choose the way they live.  An HOUR a day out of the crate? AN HOUR?  Sorry about this sweetheart but in my book that is called NEGLECT and CRUELTY.  Now you are actually considering having them put to sleep?  FOR WHAT?  What gives someone with your obvious flawed judgement the right to make that decision?  How DARE you!  If you have been reading ANY posts on this board you must know about the numerous rescue organizations for dachshunds.  Give them up!  Stop thinking about yourself and your needs for just a minute and have your boyfriend CALL THE RESCUE.  I have read countless stories of poor little dogs who have had HORRIBLE lives that go to a loving home and are the best dogs EVER.  In fact, I adopted one!  I would not give this little guy up for the world.  EVER.  There are families like mine out there who are willing to do whatever it takes .  The websights for all of the dachsund links are listed on the home page of this site under Adoption/ Rescue.  I live in Florida and if you are going to have those dogs put to sleep and you don't want to call the rescue, email me at terri.sanders@msn.com .  I will take them until we can find a home for them. I am begging you to have some compassion and do the right thing here. 

[PattyInAK]

I have been coming to this board for sometime now and never have I ever read such a load of crap in my life.  I refuse to beat around the bush on my feelings here and if that gets me in hot water, so be it.

Neither you nor your boyfriend should have those poor little GORGEOUS dogs.  Your relationship is your own.  What you do in your life is certainly up to you and the way in which you choose to live is up to you as well.  Those dogs are an entirely different story.  They did NOT choose the way they live.  An HOUR a day out of the crate? AN HOUR?  Sorry about this sweetheart but in my book that is called NEGLECT and CRUELTY.  Now you are actually considering having them put to sleep?  FOR WHAT?  What gives someone with your obvious flawed judgement the right to make that decision?  How DARE you!  If you have been reading ANY posts on this board you must know about the numerous rescue organizations for dachshunds.  Give them up!  Stop thinking about yourself and your needs for just a minute and have your boyfriend CALL THE RESCUE.  I have read countless stories of poor little dogs who have had HORRIBLE lives that go to a loving home and are the best dogs EVER.  In fact, I adopted one!  I would not give this little guy up for the world.  EVER.  There are families like mine out there who are willing to do whatever it takes .  The websights for all of the dachsund links are listed on the home page of this site under Adoption/ Rescue.  I live in Florida and if you are going to have those dogs put to sleep and you don't want to call the rescue, email me at terri.sanders@msn.com .  I will take them until we can find a home for them. I am begging you to have some compassion and do the right thing here. 

Very well said, Terri, I agree with you 100%.

[Julie]

First of all i want to say thanks to Kathy for remembering your comments this summer, because I am the person you berated when I was trying to figure out what to do with my cat.   That being said, I can't believe that you would consider putting those two dogs down.  If I remember right from the comments you made this summer, you have dogs of your own.  Are they in the house too?  If so, and the two little dogs are only let out for an hour at a time and are watched the entire time, then maybe they are not the ones having accidents.  If you care at all about these dogs, then either contact Terri or contact Mack on our board.  I will help Terri if it comes down to it or take them in myself until they can find a home.  There is a lot more that I would like to say, especially after they way you wrote to me before, but instead I will leave it at that. 

[David C.]

How old are they?  They hardly look like seniors to me.   I'd consider anything over 12 to be truly a "senior".

I would also recommend contacting Mack, although with the hurricane that passed through, I don't know how long it will be before you will be able to communicate with him.   The Ft. Lauderdale area took a pretty hard knock from the hurricane.

Neither of my dachshunds were particularly well-housebroken, and it's only since Rudy's passing that I realized how poor his housebreaking actually was.  Sometimes, if you can't completely eliminate a problem, the best thing to do is manage it.  For instance, my surviving dachshund Max has accidents.  He can't help it.  No amount of training is going to change that it's a function of his age (closing in on 17).   However, Max is consistent enough that he usually pees in the same spot.  We purchased a Hoover Steam Vac carpet cleaner and use it religiously.   It's only carpet, and I'm certainly not going to condemn Max to death because of his accidents.   

[Sandishooligans]

Your post was very long, but I believe I can boil it down to one sentence:  YOU WANT THE DOGS GONE.  Well, do it then.  In your case, it would be the best thing.  PLEASE contact a national Dachshund rescue and SURRENDER THEM NOW!  These dogs are not leading any sort of quality life.  They need a chance and you and your boyfriend just can't give them that chance now.  PLEASE BE HUMANE.  Don't put healthy dogs asleep, surrender them now, PLEASE!!

[Kari]

:bs:  I'm sorry, but that is garbage! I really hope that you reconsider putting these puppers to sleep. It is not their fault the way that they were raised. It is our responsibility as pet owner's to care for them and to give them the best life! I am sure that there are people who will be willing to take these guys is - it seems that there are already a number of people here who are already willing to help! I have emailed Mack directly to see if he can provide any help. These guys deserve a chance at a better life! Please don't be selfish and take the easy way out.

[bridgetlouise]

Wow.... for a post asking for help, I sure read a lot of ME..... I......MY......MINE.  One thing Jarrett can certainly say about his dogs is that they have offered UNCONDITIONAL love.  That's what our pups do.  It's never ever too late to teach or train them.  It's in their nature to do what they can to please the people they love.  Look in the mirror and see what your nature is.

[Ruth in MT]

When house training a dog you take them outside again, and again, and again ,and again, and again, and again ,and again and again, and again, and again, and again ................. if you see them starting to pee you run and pick them up and rush oustide again, and again, and again, and again.  If you can't be bothered to take them out they have to relieve themselves somewhere.......  THIS IS NOT THE DOGS' FAULT

[Bratpak and Lauri]

Forgive me when I say this, but you should'nt have ANY dog at all.  It's NEVER the dog's fault. It's the human's.  Please give them up - the will be someone out there who'll adore and LOVE them.
And I really think YOU are at fault here for FORCING poor Jarret in a very subtle way to choose between you and his doglets.  If I had a boyfriend making demands like you, HE'LL be the one being chucked out the door! 

[Dottiesdoxies]

Gosh, I so agree with everyone here.  I don't think you should have any dog and if Jarretts smart he'll run not walk away from you.  Those puppers look wonderful, I live in Maryland, but if need be, I'll come get them.   Dogs love us unconditionally, they just need to be re-trained and loved back!  The reason divorce attorneys stay in business is because of people like you!  I sure hope you don't have kids and don't ever have them, you'd never understand how to love and care for anyone, be they human or animal!  Maybe Jarrett is single @ 31 years old, because he has been seeing women like you!  If I were him, I'd hire a dog trainer, cleaning person, and dump you!  He'll get much more love and understanding from the puppers than he'll ever get from you!  Mack, if you came through the storm ok, please go get these dogs, email me, I'll help with expenses!  dottie

[dackel]

I really wish I lived near Florida....
Poor dogs.. there's lots and lots of people that are looking for Dachshunds that need homes. Do not do anything drastic.
I've been seriously thinking about getting another dachshund after I move into the house we'll be renting from my fiance's dad, but I unfortunately live all the way in California.
Dachshunds require a lot of patience, time, and persistance to train, and if you aren't up to it, do not blame it on the dogs. DO NOT put them to sleep!

[Roberta]

Ditto to what all the rest have said, find a rescue and if Jarrett wants YOU more than them take them there.
I take it your OWN dogs were crated for 23 hours and house trained the other 1 hour. Don't have children because they are even more work, and petal I don't think you have it in you. I also notice its HIS house that YOU are selling!

I have three, one is 15 1 /2, that is senior, and she now makes mistakes, I take it you would put her to sleep as she in your books is to much work , If  I lived on your continent I'd have them shipped to us.

Jarrett be a MAN, dump her as someone else said get a life, spend time with them, get a trainer and find a new girlfriend. But hey you probably don't know about this. 

So you are  an intern, that explains a lot, thank the Lord I don't live where you will be in practice, I'd hate to not fit into your little round hole.

Roberta

[Eric]

JarrettEmily....if it comes down to it, e-mail me and I will personally drive up to your location this weekend and rescue those poor puppers...no questions asked.  I am an experienced doxie dog owner and am willing to provide a loving rescue home for them.

I would much rather see them rescued and fostered in our home then to continue your troubles.

browne@tampabay.rr.com

[Krista]

I would personally like to thank Eric and Terri for offering to take these dachshunds in.  You guys are amazing, and I'm so honored to "know" you.

Emily, please accept their help or contact Florida Dachshund Rescue as soon as possible.  You can release the dogs to any of these parties and know that they will find the help, training and love they deserve.

[Jeri]

Putting dogs in a crate 22 hours a day is not training or housebreaking.  It takes time and effort, and it may require the guidance of a professional trainer.  If you and Jarrett are not willing to do this, then I agree the current situation is not fair to the dogs and they need a new home. 

While I agree that the carpet is horrible, you may have taken a huge step to solving the housesoiling problem by removing it.  Dogs return to places they have already marked.  You have removed their marks.  Also, dogs who are dedicated housesoilers often have no interest in peeing on hard surfaces.  I have known many owners who found the soiling problems stopped after they installed Pergo or tile.

Euthanasia is a cruel and unnecessary option.  These dogs are young, healthy, and adoptable.  It is not their fault that they had an inexperienced owner who was not able or willing to train them.  Next they have the addition of a selfish person who must have everything her way, is good at pointing out problems and bitching, but short on actual solutions.  This does not mean that no one else can handle them--it only means the two of you seem ill-equipped to do so.  Don't kill the dogs because of your shortcomings.

Lastly, I feel very sorry for Jarrett.  You say he lets others push him around, but you seem like the type who wants someone to push around.  You are very much a my-way-or-the-highway type of person.  So why don't the two of you move away together and enjoy the co-dependent hell you both seem to want, but turn the dogs over to rescue so they don't suffer along with you.

[Nancy]

You poor selfish girl.

Obviously you've never held an animal while they have had euthanasia.  I have, it's not a pretty thing to experience.  Of course, if you just "drop them off" it's of no consequence to you.  I held our 17 year old Dachsie when he was in the last stages of kidney failure.  My husband and I stayed home from work and spent the whole day with him until we could tell it was time.  I doubt you would do that.  By the end of that long day I had been thrown up, peed, & deficated upon but through this all I was still shown unconditional love.  That's what we love so much about this breed.

Yes, these dogs can be hard to train.  Is it impossible?  No.  Sounds like Jarrett was on the right track and working with them however they do need to be out of the cage more than an hour or two a day.

As others have stated, give these poor puppers up for adoption, TODAY.  They deserve a better life...and actually, so does Jarrett.



Funny, I adopted a 2 year old Dachsie that had been in a kennel the first year of his life at a breeders...it's taken us 2 years to get him completely over it.  Housebroken?  Yes.  Behavior problems?  None other than being shy, which he seems to be getting over.

[MindyKay]

PLEASE give the dogs up.  You now have several options for giving the poor pups a chance at a good, loving home.

I really wanted to say more, but I won't - what I'm thinking right now is not very nice, plus everyone else has voiced my thoughts in a much nicer way.

[Barb]

Bless you Eric and Terri for offering to take these kids in to your home, unconditionally.  I pray she will contact you or do something quickly.  These babies deserve more.

[Stacey]

Wow.... for a post asking for help, I sure read a lot of ME..... I......MY......MINE.  One thing Jarrett can certainly say about his dogs is that they have offered UNCONDITIONAL love.  That's what our pups do.  It's never ever too late to teach or train them.  It's in their nature to do what they can to please the people they love.  Look in the mirror and see what your nature is.

I have to say that this says it all!!  You seem to be a very selfish, spoiled person!!  These poor dogs did not CHOOSE where they wanted to live and are they way they are because of the way they were raised.  They do not belong in your so called 'care'!!  You go from one statement saying you want to give them to a good home to another saying you want them put down!!  Who are you to take a life??  Putting a dog down is a LAST resort when a dog is either very ill or in so much pain there is nothing else that can be done for them, not a 'oh well they aren't house trained' resort!! I watched my 14 1/2 year old poodle be put down and it was the most traumatic thing I have ever had to witness (and I was an adult)!!  PLEASE contact either Terri (who is a wonderful Doxie owner) or Eric (who I'm sure is a wonderful Doxie owner) and have them take these dogs off your hands so you can go back to being the selfish, spoiled person you are portraying yourself to be!!!!  And if that's not who you are, then you really need to re-read your post and make some MAJOR changes cuz sweetie that's EXACTLY how you sound!!!

[Kari]

Thank you to everyone who has offered to help these 2 puppers out! I pray that they will do the right thing and turn them over!

[Rich]

Eric and Terri, you are my heroes today. Emily, I hope that you managed to read through all the anger and get in touch with one of these two so that the dachshunds can be treated as they should be.  I'm not going to apologize for the anger you have encountered as I sit here typing this through a red haze myself, but I'm going to assume that you can be educated and possibly can listen to reason.

So the dogs have been in a crate 23 hours a day while your dog did what?  I would be interested in learning what information you received that indicated that this treatment could in any way, shape or form be considered training.  If you could tell us that maybe we could start to understand your seeming incredible callousness toward 2 innocent living creatures that are capable of love and yes, capable of suffering as well.

Older dogs can't be trained?  I'm sure we would be interested in where you received this information as well.  In order to train a dog you have to have a clue.  23 hours a day in a crate will only train a dog that human beings are cruel.  I hope you follow one of the many options suggested to you here so that the dogs may begin a life of love and gentle correction instead of hostility and imprisonment.

So here we are nearly a year after the problem first presented itself and you got lots of good information.  Did you and Jarrett go together to a dog behavior specialist together to discuss the problem?  Did you read any books about how to correct problem behavior together? Did you give Jarrett any options other than an ultimatum to rid himself by any means possible of his companions while you kept yours?

Basically you would now consider euthanasia for these dogs because they are inconvenient. It sounds to me, and evidently to others on this board, that you had your mind set on ridding yourself of these dogs that you have hated since the first posts last summer and that you grudgingly decided that you would give this a trial period where you tried something that had not a prayer of working.

It sounds to me like Jarrett loves and has loved these dogs.  It also sounds like you could care less.  As the veteran of a couple of failed marriages, let me tell you this.  You can't build a relationship based on what you think you can make the other person into.  You also can't start out by such a major overhaul on the things your partner cares for and values without sowing the seeds of bitter resentment.

In my opinion, the dogs aren't the problem, but they have become a symbol for your desire to control and dictate the direction of your relationship.  Every word of your original post screams that after a long campaign - severely loaded by the methods adopted - you are about to finally get your way.  And you are about to get it no matter what form the solution takes.  If you have to kill the dogs (let's not hide the facts under the euphemism "euthanasia"), then so be it.

While I have to wonder why you even bother to post your situation overburdened with self-justification on this board, I am glad that there are those who will step up and say "we don't care what their problems are, we just want to love them."  I hope in this you find a demonstration of some characteristics of the human heart that I sadly fear you lack.

[Shumard4]

I have two things to say.
If you are a decent person you will get them into rescue. I will take them but I am in Missouri and have no way to get them here.

Second I would love to introduce your boyfriend to my daughter who understands doxies having two of her own.

[bridgetlouise]

Bravo, Rich..... well said