Koby is the first longhair that I have had. He doesn't seem to have the pretty long hair like some of the other longhairs that I see pictures of on the board. Are there different types of long hair? I know that his ears were trimmed before we got him, but the rest of his fur wasn't. Maybe he is a medium hair?
I am going to have to get a good picture of him without the jacket on to show his fur, but this is how his head looks.
(http://static.flickr.com/18/69368070_597e116a3d.jpg)
Julie - how old is he? I just wonder if his full coat is in........I think his ears look very silky....very smoochable !!!!
I don't have long hairs, and of no help - but others will let you know !
I think Koby's ears are sooooo pretty. One reason I like the smooths so much is that they don't shed as much....well as much as Gretch did.....I had enough hair each day with her to weave myself another puppy. But those ears are just gorgeous. How long is the rest of his hair?
Hey Julie....Buelahs hair is a lot like Koby's. Wavy and long on the ears and tail....not so much on the body and quite a bit on her feet.. I found that brushing her tail and her ears makes her hair look much fuller and brings out that feathered look on her tail. I have also noticed that as she gets older her hair is growning faster and thicker. I'm hoping that DeeDee responds to your post because I think that Hallie is one of the prettiest dogs I have ever seen. I don't know how old she is and I'm curious to find out if her hair got longer and thicker as she got older.
I just love the color of Koby's hair. He looks like he has highlights! :)
Hi Julie,
Koby looks like my Eddie. Eddie has long, silky hair on his ears and feet, but his body hair is med length.
Eddie's problem is that he hates to be brushed and will only allow me to groom his belly and chest. He will be going to the groomer in a couple of weeks because he has mats ion his ears and will not let me take them out. Eddie also has lonish hair on his feet which the groomer cuts to look like C-A-T paws.
In Summer his coat is fuller, but now it is shorter. Hope this helps.
I don't have any longhairs, but here is what little I do know on this topic.....
Dachshunds are genetically either Long, smooth or wire coats. Coats for all three types can be of various quality though. Some things affecting coat-quality are genetic and the dog will just never have the ideal coat - no matter what you do to improve it. Other things are envrionmental, and some kinds of diseases/health problems can affect the coat as well.
Long Hairs do tend to take as long as 2 -3 years to get their "full coat" from what I've heard.
Feeding quality food to your dog and making sure they get enough essential fatty acids may help improve the coat. Some of us here use supplements for coat health and general health of our dogs. I personally give Salmon Oil and Vitamin E daily to my dogs, but others may use Solid Gold Seameal, flaxseed oil or something else.
Some dogs have coat problems because of something in their environment that they are allergic to, or that they are repetitively doing over and over. My friend's dog essentially burned off the coat on her belly because she laid on a metal heater vent all day during the cold months of the year. Some dogs groom themselves in the same spot too much out of habit or to try and relieve allergy symptoms and that cause bare spots too.
Gabbe is my only long hair and her hair is not as long and her coat is not as full as some other long hairs on the board. I know that Julia's Brekke has a really full coat. I think that Koby looks very handsome just the way he is. :hkiss:
BTW, does the new signature mean that Koby and Tiffany are now in their forever home with Sargent and Libby??? Hmmmmmm.......
My long haired Manny looks like that.I think they could pass for twins.Manny's ears has a little black in the hair.This is also my first experience with a long haired doxie as well.
That's the way Cash looked when I got him. He was about 2 then. After I had him for about 6 months his coat got really thick and bushy. I don't know if it was the raw diet or what :dontknow:, but he's such a fuzz ball now that I keep him clipped in the summer because he gets so hot.
I have 5 longhairs and all of them have good coat but each is a different length... i think its a combination of things
* Sex - Males *sometimes* carry a heavier coat than females.
* Season - some dogs carry a heavy coat in the winter and by summer they have nothing more than ear fringe and a flag on the tail... i call this their "underwear" LOL
* Spayed or Intact - Many dogs coat up considerably once they are spayed but the coat can be a different texture (more fuzzy but still soft) while intact dogs might carry less coat due to hormonal changes (this is especially true with females) and their coat is more strait and silky.
*Genetics - If your dog comes from a family of longhairs with a lighter coat then it stands to reason he/she may have less coat (i have a few like this myself)
*Food & Supplements - Sometimes the coat becomes more dry and the hair breaks before it ever really gets any length or he/she may blow their coat more often... i add Salmon oil to my dogs food i have noticed a big difference in the past few years also if a dog has skin allergies a change in food might be called for.
Here is what the standard for the dachshund says regarding coat...
Longhaired Dachshund -
Coat - The sleek, glistening, often slightly wavy hair is longer under the neck and on forechest, the underside of the body, the ears and behind the legs. The coat gives the dog an elegant appearance. Short hair on the ear is not desirable. Too profuse a coat which masks type, equally long hair over the whole body, a curly coat, or a pronounced parting on the back are faults.
Tail - Carried gracefully in prolongation of the spine; the hair attains its greatest length here and forms a veritable flag.
http://www.dachshund-dca.org/official_standard.html
Looking at the pix of Koby i think he looks great... just not a hairy monster... count your blessings a big fuzzball can take a LOT of brushing and more baths!!
Jen & the Crew
How old is he? Many longhairs don't get their full coat for a few years. My Jessie was a standard LH, her Dad had the longest coat I'd ever seen in a doxie, but Jessie didn't have much coat until she was about 5. (For females, they will get more coat after they are spayed too.) I showed her in the breed ring and her Dad was a Ch so they had correct coats. When I first got Hallie, she didn't have a very long coat at all, now she is abundantly endowed LOL and she does not have a "correct" coat, hers is almost a cotton coat, very fine. I'll post a picture of when I first got her...she was about 10 months old then we figure. (and then one of her now). Brekke looks like she has a similar coat and even more blessed with her tresses! :heart:
There are different coats in longhair but they aren't categorized separately. The standard describes a correct coat, but there are a lot of variations. I'll bet Jen could quote it out of her head lol...but without looking it up, I just remember things like it shouldn't be wavy or part down the middle of the back, etc. Not always, but the majority of the time, longs tend to shed less than many smooths even, both Jessie and Hallie never left hair on anything and there is never any hair in the drain when I bath her and very little to none in her comb when I brush her. The two smooths I've had, shed enough to leave some hair on clothes and where they lay, etc. Just depends on the coat type.
I'll bet Koby will keep growing hair as he gets older and especially now that he is in a stable and loving environment with less stress. He is a gorgeous little boy and I love the hair on his ears. :heart:
EDIT: LOL Jen we must have posted at the same time...
QuoteMany dogs coat up considerably once they are spayed but the coat can be a different texture (more fuzzy but still soft)
Yep, that's exactly what happened to Hallie. Jessie kept her correct coat (just more of it) after being spayed but Hallie's hair "went to town" LOL.
:grin: Hi, Julie! Brekke is my first longhair, and she did not come into coat until age 3. She was spayed at 6 months and blew her coat after that. She is the product of a longhair (dad) to smooth (mom) breeding, as the breeder was trying to get a softer coat into her smooth lines. This is not usually done. You'd think Brekke would have shorter hair, but - look out! Hers is very fluffy, and her niece, Mocha, who owns my friend Brenda - about a block away, has very full hair, too!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/Brekkesmom/dachsiephotos2004-2005026.jpg)
Awww ANGEL! :angel4:
She's a chocolate Hallie with a bit more hair!!! Such a cutie.
I just had a man inquire about having me do a portrait of his chocolate longhair, who has a liver nose and green eyes...I thought of you!
Dee Dee,
Sarah's hair is starting to get fuzzy too.. she was spayed 5mos ago... I have found a WAY COOL new grooming tool that gets rid of a LOT of the little fuzzies. Its called the Furminator (NO kidding!!) I have the smallest one and it works great on the legs :thumb: Well worth the price tag :grin:
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=4403&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iSubSubCat=0&iProductID=4403&AS=1
Jen
Thanks for all of the answers. Koby just turned 6 last month, so I think he has his full adult coat. His tail has long fur and he has fuzzy feet and is longer around the legs, but nowhere like Hallie and Brekke. His back has more medium cottony feeling fur. Terri is right, now that I think about it, Koby's fur is a lot like Beulah's. I think I was getting fur jealousy after looking at Hallie's snow pictures! :afro: Koby's coloring is really pretty. His ears are too short right now. They were clipped just before he got here, so I am trying to let them grow out more. He is such a sweetie and a character!!
Whether he has long hair, short hair, cottony or fuzzy....... every time I look at Koby's face I just want to give him a great big kissy. He's such a pretty boy.
Hey Jen!
Are Sarah's fuzzies just in spots, like undercoat? Hallie never did have the correct coat as Sarah, so her coat texture is uniform all over. She would literally be bald if I stripped the fuzzies out LOL. Does Sarah shed? Hallie doesn't lose one hair in the tub and when I comb her (I use a flea comb just because it does a better job combing that hair) unless I hit a little ratted area or something, not one hair comes out. I can't pull any hair out with my fingers either. I wish you could see her coat in person, it really does have many moods. :thumb: I have known a lot of longhairs, but they were all from the shows pretty much, so I have not come across another longhair locally with hair like Hallie's. Delia's Gretchen has really similar texture only a little shorter, we often wonder if her hair would be like Hallie's if it were longer. Brekke's looks just like Hallie's only longer yet. Jessie never did get a spay coat, I wonder if age of spay has anything to do with it. I also wonder if Hallie's coat would have been different had she not been spayed (not that I wouldn't have not spayed her to find out!)
Julie your big hair icon cracked me up! LOL!!!! I didn't realize Koby is 6, yes he probably does have his full coat then. I love the black of the sabling on his ears, he's a gorgeous boy. It will be interesting to see how much his ears grow from being clipped.
Jen does a males coat change after being neutered or is that just a girl thing?
I have had longhairs of all lengths. I think it's just DNA.
I know Tofu has fuzzy puffs on his hindquarters and I shave him in the summer.
Ozzy's mom, Jasmine, is a standard red shorthair, and his dad, Toto, is a mini black longhair. Ozzy has long hair on his ears, legs, and tail, but his body hair is somewhat shorter, except on his chest, where it forms a sort of "crest." I do have to brush him at least every other day to keep his hair from matting, especially on the tail.
He is mostly black with red undertones. I will try to get good pictures of his coloring sometime.
At any rate, the vet considers him a long-hair.
Kobe is a real cutie-pie and I'm so glad they are staying with you!
Dee Dee,
So far it is just in spots but some seem to get it all over (this could be in her future)! She was spayed during a c-section so i think that really threw everything out of wack not the ideal situation but necessary. She did the normal coat blow like all my girls do after they wean their puppies so her hair is just now starting to grow back ... ask me a year from now and i will be able to tell you for sure how it will be! :2funny:
So far this Furminator thing is great at taking out all the dead undercoat (ie: the fuzzies). Before she was spayed she had a nice coarse double coat all over he body with slight feathering she never has had much coat to speak of (do much got masking type..lol) but what she does or rather DID have was nice and she looked like a longhair! lol As far as shedding i would say not really most of my dogs don't drop coat... i have found the 'smoothes' believe it or not to be the biggest shedders they will leave their little trademark eyelashes on your bed sheets!
Longhairs do more of a seasonal coat blow and the girls blow their coat after their seasons mine usually around 3-4mos after their season has ended .. .right about when they would have weaned a litter if they were bred ... i think most all girls go through a false pregnancy with each season although some more than others.. some so slight the owner never realizes the hormone change and some so real you would think the neighbors dog had gotten to them! :doah: This hormone rush is what causes the risk of mammary tumors... i have dealt with this too NOT fun!
Gabby & Nick both have a double coat too but the topcoat is more similar to nice thick human hair and i guess you could say its more silky. I have noticed when they blow their coats it grows back more slowly than Sophie or Sarah. Either way i think both types would be considered correct ...Gabby's coat is the easiest to take care of :)
As far as *neuter coat* goes just like the girls some males will fuzz up a bit after the surgery i guess it's just a fact of "longhair' life.
Jen
Interesting stuff. I have found that to be true as well, the smooths shed more than the longs in general. The two smooths we have had shed a lot more than my two longs. Yes I agree, if not breeding, spay as early as possible to avoid those mammary tumors. I'm know that wasn't fun at all for you!! Will be interesting to hear how Sarah's coat is in a year. I have not noticed Hallie blowing coat at any time of the year...I was going to say "yet" but I've had her four years now! Man! Where did THAT time go???
Do you think having smooth or wire back in the breeding effects the type of coat or is a longhair a longhair, no matter what coat type behind it...?
When we bred my smooth to another smooth we had one semi long hair pup (ziggy :heart: ) out of six. When we went back futher in the pedigree we found there was a long hair 3 generations back behind her and the male had the same. So they can pop up depending what is behind them.
Merion & Zack
As the owner of one of the other hairy canaries Amy.
:scratch: :scratch: where did she come from?????
Kidding aside, The Oz standard says they should have coats similar to that of Irish reds feathering on ears tail legs and medium on the tum tum, Oliver's coats ok. As I said Amy has thick undercoat and quite a thick top coat, and like dee I use a fine comb to get the dead hair out I also found a stripper that takes out the dead hair, amy does not like it but it does help.
When we got both of them their coats were good, but have improved with age and I think food and wellbeingness. Colleen also said that indoor dogs don't always have the full coat as they do not need it for warm.
I agree, when people see my pair they say they would never have a long hair due to shedding, I always say its the other way around Emma dumps tons.
Koby is gorgeous and he probably does not care what his coat is like, but I think he is a gorgious boy.
Roberta
Yeah, I'd say Gretchen's hair is just a tad shorter than Hallie's!!! I guess I don't have to tell y'all that Gretchen is the one on the right - the LH wannabe!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/texasdoxies/The%20girls/HallieandGretchen.jpg)
Quote from: Dee Dee and Hallie on December 02, 2005, 01:29:34 PM
Do you think having smooth or wire back in the breeding effects the type of coat or is a longhair a longhair, no matter what coat type behind it...?
Well by definition a longhair is a longhair since it is recessive it can be carried by both smoothes and wires. I personally think that a long out of 2 smoothes "typically" has a shorter coat unless the smooth has quite a bit of long behind it. I have only seen 2 longhairs out of wire parents one was a wire to wire breeding the other was a smooth to wire breeding both dogs had what i would consider bad longhair coats rather kinky and rough not silky... i am not sure that is always the case though just my experience.
Crossing wires to longs is usually considered a no-no but it has now become some what of a fad with the byb's :BangHead:
Jen
OHh don't get me started on byb's! :doah:
Interesting about the wire to wire longs. Hallie's coat was kind of coarse when I got her, yet shiney. Not silky though. And now it's sooo soft and fine, it's like a whole different texture. I had wondered if there were wires behind her but now I'm thinking maybe Old English Sheepdog. LOL! :wink: